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Discuss everything that is happening in India or is related to India
What options India is left with apart from kadi ninda
1. Intelligence Bureau has said that it sent a "Highly specific, concrete and detailed" report to all the Army Headquarters on 15 September regarding a Fidayeen attack on army base camp in Uri.
2. The intelligence bureau sent this "emergency" intelligence report to everyone in the "crisis loop", including the army command centres.
3. IB had given concrete intelligence report that 3 groups of terrorists have infiltrated on 12 and 13 September with plans to attack Army/CRPF and BSF bases.
4. The first team was tracked, engaged and neutralised by Army in Poonch. This was the second team.
5. Third team is STILL UNTRACEABLE.
6. Now, the question arises : Why was army caught off-guard despite such a specific, concrete and detailed input ?
7. In today's attack, all the Jawans who were martyred didnt have time to retaliate and most of them did not have arms and ammunitions with them as it was the time when change of guard was taking place.
8. It shows not only an impeccable planning by the terrorists regarding time and location, but also raises a bigger question - why was there such a big lapse in SOP (Standard Operating Protocol) ?
9. Was there some traitor who leaked all the information regarding location, timing, intel info and the weak points ?
My condolences to all the martyrs. You will always remain in our hearts ! I am deeply pained that in your last moments, you could not even get a chance to fight these enemies. The whole country is enraged and angered. Hope your supreme sacrifice never goes into vain !!
IB comments source :
What we really need to do, in my opinion:
Give Pak 3 months to wrap up its Terror camps and hand over all the wanted criminals and terrorists
Post 3 month we move against terror camps and take PoK back
Deliver support to Baluchistan and Afghanistan and build presure on this corrupt, inhuman and terror supporting government and Army in Pakistan
Take PoK after 3 months, and maintain offensive posturing
Independence to Defence forces to prepare and operate. Give them targets, not ill informed advice and criticism
Rajnath Singh should go to US and Russia as planned, and maintain India’s voice against terrorism globally. Let Pakistan feel the pressure that it has to mend its ways, or be obliterated from map
Meanwhile we need to look into problems at home. When there was IB report about the attack why did army fail to secure our barracks. And how did the terrorists get such detailed internal information as change of guard and internal map of area . It means 2 things our defense security is horribly compromised and there is traitor . We need to immediately take care of these 2 areas . We need immediate homeland security reforms . Make it difficult for them to make Big Bang attacks in our country. They are spending a lot on these outfit and purpose will not be served if they don't get publicity internationally. They may find it useless to patronize these outfits eventually.
Internationally make out Pakistan to be a terrorist state at every forum . Give support to Balochistan and Afghanistan on international Forms . Form Groups of like minded countries like Afghanistan Bangladesh and kick out Pakistan from saarc .
Last but not least make Pakistan feel the heat economically and by your own sanctions on water of Indus .
I think we need our strategy on China because real player in this attack I believe is China. Pakistan is cheap dog doing China's dirty work.
China is backing Pakistan there is no denial, but the more we refrain, the more danger we are in. We might be just postponing the solution, its been long 10 years of this proxy war or terror and we have lost a lot.
And have a shining destroyer or two stationed right outside Karachi. No more monkey business should be tolerated.
If our huge Navy, Air force and Army is not able to deter Pak, its time we used our machines on Pak than just letting them rust here.
Depends on how far in history you want to go back. This land belongs to my ancestors and not some fake entity called Pakistan.
Fatcs : Pak is illegal occupant o the land in question. J&K Assembly has seats reserved or areas under PoK
1.) 40k tweets, trend it. people abuse.
2.) Arnab will have a super high decibel debate with mahroof raza and gen bakshi.
3.) Ravish will call a few people to talk on facts. There two kind of journalisist will shape the format of debate in every gathering.
4.) Kadi ninda kari jayegi, as Mr. Raman wrote here
5.) PM will apparently roar that those involved will not be spared, just like pathankot. And might even invite Pakistan, jayeza lene ke liye.
6.) Tomorrow people will forget and repeat the same in future.
Sadly army will keep on fighting and losing brave people at the border.
1. The national psyche is generally submissive because o centuries o foreign oppression.
2. There is a section o society that is busy chasing some obscure ideals and dont want to confront the stark reality
It is our duty to confront he so called peaceniks, 'politically correct' and 'holier than thou' idiots in our society.
Debate with them, counter them, expose them. Call them out publicly for not speaking against our enemies.
These guys always claim the 'intellectual' plank and look down upon someone who feels or the nation. These guys have never known what it is to loose someone to terrorism. It is sad that we have not weeded them out yet.
We have lost seventeen precious lives because of cross border terrorism. One could not help wondering why the world leaders are apathetic about India's pain on account of this Pakistan sponsored cross border terrorism. Does not China unabashedly plead for an NSG seat for Pakistan if India be given such a seat ? This kind of heavy loss of lives of our brave soldiers by intolerable sneaky militants invariably calls for a war with Pakistan and in case of such a war China will try to derive maximum gain by siding Pakistan and if India is lucky to get the support of any of western super powers, the world will be plunged into a terrible nuclear world war. Why not either the UNO or other world leaders intervene timely in this kind of cross border terrorism and prevent an apocalyptic world war ?
Guys, is there a real option , a real actionable ?
Elaborated text copied from Shehla's fb profile:
Whoever cares for the lives of the slain Indian soldiers must ask for the right to self-determination of the people of Jammu and Kashmir, a peaceful and dignified resolution to the issue, rather than a prolonged war.
The terror attack is sad and condemnable, and so is the continued state terror being unleashed on Kashmiris for the past two months and more.
If in Srinagar, a single dog dies, Maneka Gandhi flies down to Srinagar and demands action against people.
However, the streets of Srinagar are being coloured with the blood of Kashmiris, and not a single voice is raised. CRPF fires into the houses of Kashmiris, killing people and blinding them. It's an all out war on the unarmed people.
On the other hand, by the army's own admission, more soldiers are dying due to suicide and depression than in combat.
Dear Indian people, plz understand. Your government is lying to you. It is carrying on a fight which it has morally lost. Stop the moral support to the state violence in Kashmir. That's the only way to save lives of young Indian men who go to serve in the armed forces.
Pakistan seems to believe India won’t act strongly and give a befitting reply to the aggressors. However, it seems Modi's patience might just be running out.
But even in kargil war, army without informing the govt attacked first, and the govt was left with no option other than participating. Hence India had to reply. Losing the war was some motivation for Pakistan to use nuclear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1T7PIFvIhE this is a long video but exposes what happened in Kargil.
Also even this time the situation is similar(except the capturing area part). This time there might be three power centers, army. terrorists and the govt. This time also their aggression has to be repulsed, only the nature of attack has changed. Unless India doesn't try and capture Pakistani area it will difficult for them to use the N option. India will surely have to know its limits in the war.
Modi is trying hard on this front gathering international community against terrorism but sadly world doesn't function in this linear fashion, hence we will have to wait for a more powerful nation maybe like Russia to take the fight on
One big lesson of contemporary foreign affairs is that nobody fights anthers battle. Its all narrow self interest.
India is hyphenated with Pakistan every which way - geography, nukes, Kashmir
After the rabble rousing stops, we just deal with that and move on
This shows how successful and efficient Pak is against India. Our PM tried giving a stern warning, but it has only resulted in multiple blows on the Indian borders and J&K valley. How will the Indian leadership respond? Condemn, point fingers at Pak & heat up the diplomatic channels with accusations and perhaps flag the issue with the west, who I am sure have least respect on India, from the way we handled Mumbai blasts. Mishaps continue on Indian side with no positive responses from Indian political system.
Hey!! our posts intersected on this and views too
Agree, to add to "kadi ninda ", get US to add to "Kadi ninda
Can the makers of Aware provide us a method to string such posts together
After all, no point creating a twitter like Khichdi for readers.