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India

Discuss everything that is happening in India or is related to India

Jeevesh Narang , Feb, 10 2016

Are some of the educated youth and media houses deliberately sympathizing with the terrorist? #JNUunrest


A plan of few JNU students to hold a protest march against the hanging of Afzal guru was foiled by the university authorities, who ordered cancellation of it as they "feared" that the march might "disrupt" peace on campus. The incident occurred at the tail end of a cultural evening organised by 10 students, formerly of the Democratic Students’ Union (DSU). Other groups including the All India Students’ Association (AISA), All India Students’ Federation (AISF) and Students’ Federation of India (SFI) could be seen coming to the spot in support of the DSU. What is the reason behind calling Afzal Guru a martyr?
A plan of few JNU students to hold a protest march against the hanging of Afzal guru was foiled by the university authorities, who ordered cancellation of it as they "feared" that the march might "disrupt" peace on campus. The incident occurred at the tail end of a cultural evening organised by 10 students, formerly of the Democratic Students’ Union (DSU). Other groups including the All India Students’ Association (AISA), All India Students’ Federation (AISF) and Students’ Federation of India (SFI) could be seen coming to the spot in support of the DSU. What is the reason behind calling Afzal Guru a martyr?

vidisha tripathi , Mar, 07 2016


The recent news of Kanhaiya that he had protested when the college authorities refused to allow to organize the cultural event has twisted the debate. Kanhaiya in an interview proclaimed that his event was only against death sentence and not for anti india slogans . I would like to ask him why you are raising slogans against the "death sentence" of a terrorist? Why you are against it? I believe For law and order death sentence is must for it would scare people before commiting a heinous crime Afzal guru has allegedly taken lives of hundreds of Indians . Does his death sentence still makes you think he shouldnt be hanged? Mr kanhaiya and your fellows and even Abvp , all are involved in politics. This all is a political gimmick. However whole jnu should not be taken under their opinion. If he really wanted ti do something for poor people and wanted 'azadi' from poverty discrimination and unemployment as he said do , he would have joined an ngo and involved in sociak work not in politicising everything he does. Jnu should prove its innocence by handing those who raised anti india slogans to the police authorities and not hide them .
The recent news of Kanhaiya that he had protested when the college authorities refused to allow to organize the cultural event has twisted the debate. Kanhaiya in an interview proclaimed that his event was only against death sentence and not for anti india slogans . I would like to ask him why you a


Rohitanshu Kar , I am interested in politics of India, recent Mar, 07 2016


Such meetings, where anti-India slogans were raised, being organized on the campus of a government-funded university is certainly far from being lawful and democratic. Freedom of speech and expression are not unfettered rights. Every right has limitations. In the name of intellectual freedom people cannot be allowed to hold public meetings to honour men who worked against the State and its institutions. Freedom of speech and expression should be not be misused in the name of religion and other propagandas. There is a fine line between the use and misuse of each and every right provided by the Constitution, and that must be followed stringently. If not followed, then the law must come into play.
Such meetings, where anti-India slogans were raised, being organized on the campus of a government-funded university is certainly far from being lawful and democratic. Freedom of speech and expression are not unfettered rights. Every right has limitations. In the name of intellectual freedom people


Aditya Tiwari , Mar, 07 2016


After going through every possible perspective of this event I feel like that maybe these students hitting the roads for the sake of a terrorist really feel like that we were really deficit of heroes and inspiration that we seeking it in a terrorist and the Prince of Gandhi family was so desperate to get into the eyes of students that he found this insult of Indians and their feelings less worthy than his politics. The recent news regarding Kanhaiya's role in the upcoming assembly poles signifies how all these agitations were politically motivated and done to malign the image of a democratically elected government. Shame on the dirty politics at the cost of respect of our country.
After going through every possible perspective of this event I feel like that maybe these students hitting the roads for the sake of a terrorist really feel like that we were really deficit of heroes and inspiration that we seeking it in a terrorist and the Prince of Gandhi family was so desperate t


Akshay Dhar , Feb, 29 2016


Under the garb of secularism and socialism, some of these groups who have vested interests have been deliberately doing so. Otherwise, there's no logic in conducting a protest in favour of a convicted terrorist who has been under a fair trial by the judicial system of this country.


Debopam Ghosh , Feb, 27 2016


The spurt in political violence in recent times has been distressing and it's only fair to call a spade a spade. There's a difference between nationalism and patriotism. Nationalism is adherence to the country under any circumstances and sort of blind acknowledgement of the nation. Patriotism on the other hand is love for one's country coupled with having the rational mental disposition of accepting its flaws and work for its betterment. The government should stop drawing the lines of patriotism along the lines of its own ideology and address the issue in a more composed manner. Use of brute force has never been acknowledged as a sign of a free country anywhere.
The spurt in political violence in recent times has been distressing and it's only fair to call a spade a spade. There's a difference between nationalism and patriotism. Nationalism is adherence to the country under any circumstances and sort of blind acknowledgement of the nation. Patriotism on the


Libin Rockey Jacob , Feb, 24 2016


Why do students always interfere, in situations that are considered to be something that must have been dealt with people, who are at higher authorities. I do understand that everyone do have a voice, no matter who you are. But this seems to be dramatic as such, these students are provoked by someone else to do their job
Why do students always interfere, in situations that are considered to be something that must have been dealt with people, who are at higher authorities. I do understand that everyone do have a voice, no matter who you are. But this seems to be dramatic as such, these students are provoked by someon


Luv varshney , Feb, 23 2016


Actually innocent jnu students and media is just get into the talk of some traitors of India and that Is why they are blindly following them even ignoreing their fact of being Indian.


Haritha Sreedharan Nair Nair , Feb, 23 2016


It is not about educated youth sympathizing or trying to tag a terrorist as a martyr. Even today, in many parts of Kashmir, Afzal Guru is considered a martyr who fought for them against India. And it was this sentiment being unleashed, in a rather unacceptable manner, which became the root cause of all the trouble. And moreover, the issue was worsened by media and politicians. Whatever the view maybe, students or outsiders were not supposed to use anti-national slogans, that too within a government campus. Keeping the fake proofs regarding the case aside, what is left is thoughts of few people (not proved to be students of JNU), expressed in a wrong manner, blown up by our society's blind likes and shares. The better solution would have been to ignore if you are uninterested, or discuss the root cause without creating such a great fuss.
It is not about educated youth sympathizing or trying to tag a terrorist as a martyr. Even today, in many parts of Kashmir, Afzal Guru is considered a martyr who fought for them against India. And it was this sentiment being unleashed, in a rather unacceptable manner, which became the root cause of


Rajashree Roy , Feb, 22 2016


University and youth campuses have always been centres of political controversies. The incident of Afzal Guru triggered a riff amongst few students who created a ruffle..Student emotions need to be neglected the fact of them having active blood.


Aleena Scaria , Feb, 22 2016


First of all, the jnu students (only who participated in that protest) did a stupid job by supporting a terrorist. Expressing the fact that he was a shaheed and questioning the country's action on his acts was baseless. Seriously, the youth is capable of far more than this. Ok, mistake done. But, the action taken by the police is far more appalling. Arresting people just because "they look like from jnu " is ridiculous. The police should clearly investigate and arrest the real anti-nationals. It seems like pure injustice on the police's side. The saying "jiski laathi uski bhais" clearly applies.
First of all, the jnu students (only who participated in that protest) did a stupid job by supporting a terrorist. Expressing the fact that he was a shaheed and questioning the country's action on his acts was baseless. Seriously, the youth is capable of far more than this. Ok, mistake done. But, th


Rohit pande , Have a view on many things but happy to thras Feb, 22 2016


What's the harm in students debating to things in Univ and dreaming a revolution to some extent its critical to keep them engaged in the absence of jobs but 2 odd things here the stupidity of the slogans in jnu and the govt jumping in to protect the nation and media following suit as both the nationalist and the anti nationalist camps if this is the central debate of India then each one of us needs to shout to make our idea of India come true
What's the harm in students debating to things in Univ and dreaming a revolution to some extent its critical to keep them engaged in the absence of jobs but 2 odd things here the stupidity of the slogans in jnu and the govt jumping in to protect the nation and media following suit as both the


Muneeba Anis , Feb, 22 2016


By now, right and wrong are vague concepts. It actually depends on the understanding of an individual. What happened at JNU, is a perfect example of things going out of hands in just second. I have faith in the youth of India. We are destined to bring change and change hav already started. There's a lot that we don't see in this whole episode. There's definitely a bigger picture here that we are deprived of. No one but the suffering students can understand the pain and agony they must be gng through. As Indians what cud be more heart wrecking to b called 'anti-nationals' if you happen to love your country so much. If that's not the case, then these people deserve no sympathies. They have earned what has come to them. No body has the right to insult one's mother land. Ever.
By now, right and wrong are vague concepts. It actually depends on the understanding of an individual. What happened at JNU, is a perfect example of things going out of hands in just second. I have faith in the youth of India. We are destined to bring change and change hav already started. There's a


Naval chopra , Feb, 14 2016


Our Youth has a lot of potential and if they channelize their energies in the right direction which will help them and also improve the country's policies , then only their protest are worth it . The protest by JNU students are baseless and they really need to form their opinions right , or else they are disrespecting India by portraying a terrorist a shaheed . They must feel ashamed as no body bated an eye for saichein soldiers .
Our Youth has a lot of potential and if they channelize their energies in the right direction which will help them and also improve the country's policies , then only their protest are worth it . The protest by JNU students are baseless and they really need to form their opinions right , or else th


Sajal Bhargava , Full of life . Music for life Feb, 14 2016


The students are protesting anti - Indian slogans and they are against death penalties. But then why a terrorist is considered a shaheed.? Why the slogans are glorifying afzal guru who was a terrorist and attacked parliament . ? So there is a difference in what they are protesting . The very own country which feeds them , they are going against it. What if later they start protesting for any other terrorist. The matter I the way and the act in which he was executed which can be diffrentiated while protesting else its taking a wrong turn.
The students are protesting anti - Indian slogans and they are against death penalties. But then why a terrorist is considered a shaheed.? Why the slogans are glorifying afzal guru who was a terrorist and attacked parliament . ? So there is a difference in what they are protesting . The very own cou


Sajal Bhargava , Full of life . Music for life Feb, 14 2016


The students are protesting anti - Indian slogans and they are against death penalties. But then why a terrorist is considered a shaheed.


Suniti Sampat , Feb, 14 2016


This is a classic example of the State muzzling dissent. According to the Indian Constitution, freedom of speech and expression can only be curbed when there is a threat to public order or security of the state. A group of students expressing their displeasure could hardly amount to either of the two. Even under the archaic sedition law, it is an established principle of law that only speech that leads to "incitement to violence" or "public disorder" may be punishable. Further, the incitement must be to "imminent violence". This incident clearly does not meet the aforementioned criteria. The Government and other authorities seemed to have conveniently forgotten that the Indian State was envisaged as a democracy. Since when could bodies like ABVP be allowed to act as a vigilante group to curb democratic dissent? Will the Government allow such a crackdown on dissent? Is the State a willing participant? These are some tough questions that the present government needs to answer. And soon.
This is a classic example of the State muzzling dissent. According to the Indian Constitution, freedom of speech and expression can only be curbed when there is a threat to public order or security of the state. A group of students expressing their displeasure could hardly amount to either of the tw


Kainaz , Fuck off Feb, 13 2016


To be honest, I don't think the protest started out generally involving the slogans or what has been described as anti-national sentiment. That part came later. What's scarier is the way that these students were hounded for these statements, and the subsequent state action that followed. The President of the JNUSU has been arrested and charged with sedition, and he didn't even take part in the protest. What does this say about the state of freedom of speech in this country?
To be honest, I don't think the protest started out generally involving the slogans or what has been described as anti-national sentiment. That part came later. What's scarier is the way that these students were hounded for these statements, and the subsequent state action that followed. The Preside


zainabkhan , Fun loving , opinion oriented. Feb, 13 2016


No. It must be portraying like that but not actually mean that. Having a movement for executing afzal guru shows the policy of the court that they followed and not supporting the acts of what he did, or with whom he was associated with.


aishwarya lakshmi , Feb, 12 2016


A few misguided students collectively carry an illegal protest. Since this protest was carried by students, when they faced problem, the other student groups came in support to them. Few anti social elements create disruption among the students, knowing that it may lead to a huge problem. Supporting a person who has thought harm to our country does not make any sense.
A few misguided students collectively carry an illegal protest. Since this protest was carried by students, when they faced problem, the other student groups came in support to them. Few anti social elements create disruption among the students, knowing that it may lead to a huge problem. Supporting


UnSubtleDesi , Feb, 12 2016


As for ABVP manufacturing chaos, JNU students were on tape chanting ANTI INDIA slogans like "bharat ki barbadi tak jung rahegi”. Easy to indoctrinte studnts to b anti state when thy are going through n anti establishment phase n justify it by anti ideology rhetoric.


UnSubtleDesi , Feb, 12 2016


Students who have posed these questions need to learn to differentiate between pro-anti political ideology, and ANTI STATE programs. Ours is a secular nation. That means theres a wall of separation between the state and religion. When students want the state to pardon terrorists coz of religion, essentially means they want the state to be Pro muslim, not secular.
Students who have posed these questions need to learn to differentiate between pro-anti political ideology, and ANTI STATE programs. Ours is a secular nation. That means theres a wall of separation between the state and religion. When students want the state to pardon terrorists coz of religion, es


हम भारत के लोग , Feb, 12 2016


ABVP, in both Hyd Univ and JNU only reacted to what the Leftists-Naxals did in support of Yakub and Afzal respectively.


हम भारत के लोग , Feb, 12 2016


What they said in support of Yakub and Afzal is on record and is reported by MSM, so no question of ABVP having doctored it. And slogan like India go back, or Bharat ki barbadi tak jung are clear that Afzal is only an alibi, real issue is hate for India.


Plato , Feb, 11 2016


They are celebrating Maqboolo as martyr. He is a man who orders high jacking of Indian plane. He founded National Liberation movement which takes army against Indian army for freedom of Kashmir. His people held hostage the Indian deputy commissioner and took him to Britain asking to barter Maqbool and shot him there. This is what the anti nationalists celebrate
They are celebrating Maqboolo as martyr. He is a man who orders high jacking of Indian plane. He founded National Liberation movement which takes army against Indian army for freedom of Kashmir. His people held hostage the Indian deputy commissioner and took him to Britain asking to barter Maqbool


praneet singh , Feb, 11 2016


these guys are worse than maoists, someone has to be funding them. This completely has political motives. they are not only supporting afzal but also maqbool haq who led to destruction of kashmir, this has to be a planned propoganda, This cannot be just a bunch of misguided student


Aashish Bhat , Feb, 11 2016


"We protest against the Judicial killing of Afzal guru and Maqbool Bhatt by the Indian Judicial System...India Go back...Bharat ki barbadi tak Jung rahegi, We will not let sleep till india is divided into 1000 parts"...No! This is not from a speech of a terrorist..It is coming from a group of Indian Nationals who are studying in a Central University in Delhi..and that too on subsidized rates, i.e. on the tax payers money. Some would debate on their favour of it..saying that its a leftist ideology and some would say..Its about the Kashmiris"... What i am not able to understand is- Are they not Anti Nationals?? If people who will not slam Pakistan for atrocities in POK, Baluchistan, for the exodus of Kashmiri pandits and blame India for anything..blame India judicial system..blame Indian Soldiers...how on earth is this for any serious issue that they wanted to highlight??? You morons are asking for the divison of the same country that feeds you and pays for your education!! I have some questions here: 1) Protest against Death Penalty..How does it translate into Bharat ki Barbadi? 2) How is India's Barabadi...Azadi!!! 3) Is it Freedom of Speech to glorify a terrorist as a Martyr? 4) If you are against the atrocities of Kashmiris, how does glorifying the acts and life of terrorists who have killed your own Kashmiri brothers..how do they become representatives of Kashmiris? 5) If you are so f**king pro "Freedom of Speech", why an Israeli or a US ambassador not allowed to speak in the Campus? And all this crap..just in the name of "FREEDOM OF SPEECH"?? Maqbool Bhatt is a Hijacker..a terrorist and a coward and all what is being celebrated is this guy's life...Leftists believe in the democratic structure of this country..what these guys are doing is believing in the ideology of Afzal Guru..They are Anti Nationals
"We protest against the Judicial killing of Afzal guru and Maqbool Bhatt by the Indian Judicial System...India Go back...Bharat ki barbadi tak Jung rahegi, We will not let sleep till india is divided into 1000 parts"...No! This is not from a speech of a terrorist..It is coming from a group of Indian


Mohaddasa Syed , Feb, 11 2016


You cannot clamp down on university students. They are the future of this nation, and if this is their opinion, then so be it. The government needs to listen and take action, not rssort to name calling and propaganda.


Divyansh Shukla , Computer enthusiast at Morgan Stanley Feb, 11 2016


So much subsidy is being given to these guys. They are studying on tax payers money, what have these anti-nationalists ever given to the nation. They are taking admission just to polish their politics, why to even give them subsidy. IITs are given subsidy and they give us people who make India proud. Ban their subsidy at the least.
So much subsidy is being given to these guys. They are studying on tax payers money, what have these anti-nationalists ever given to the nation. They are taking admission just to polish their politics, why to even give them subsidy. IITs are given subsidy and they give us people who make India proud


Jiten Saini , Feb, 11 2016


Students are misinformed they dont even the ideology of the leftists and are using its shadow becoming anti nationalists. Leftists have been a part of the the country and have nbeen taken part in democratic processes. They have never been enemy of the state


Umair Khalid , Feb, 11 2016


Govt is scared it is scared to reveal certain facts , it is afraid to tell people that Afzal was denied a fair trail It is afraid to tell people it was denied a lawyer and now it is afraid again when we are raising our voice against it. His petition was still pending when he was hanged Govt does not wants the truth to come out this is why they shout their heads out , this is why they dont want a debate. This is why they hung a man and they dont even want us to talk about it.
Govt is scared it is scared to reveal certain facts , it is afraid to tell people that Afzal was denied a fair trail It is afraid to tell people it was denied a lawyer and now it is afraid again when we are raising our voice against it. His petition was still pending when he was hanged Govt does no


Sakshi Dham , Feb, 11 2016


India has no business being together it comprises of atleast 4 states. you can hold people and ask them to be a part of yourself if you cant provide them basic human rights. Let people be in peace, national unity will follow


Avinash Sharma Gw , Pro people and justice. Student @JNU Feb, 11 2016


Was Afzal guru even involved in the parliament attack. Many people questioned it. They are lawyers, academicians, intellectuals. People can have disagreements but are we even allowed to put our point of view. Arundhatti roy and Markade Katju and even Shashi Tharur questioned it. Questions what is wrong is not being anti national!
Was Afzal guru even involved in the parliament attack. Many people questioned it. They are lawyers, academicians, intellectuals. People can have disagreements but are we even allowed to put our point of view. Arundhatti roy and Markade Katju and even Shashi Tharur questioned it. Questions what is wr


V.ArunKumar Roy , Student of International Studies, JNU Feb, 11 2016


Oh seriously! Some slogans of India Murdabad in ?#?JNU? hurts the so-called collective conscience of this nation (and media), while human rights violations and, the massacres and rapes of hundreds of Kashmiris, people from NE region, Dalits, Tribals and minorities does not! Well, if this is what called nationalism, I would better be an Anti-National.
Oh seriously! Some slogans of India Murdabad in ?#?JNU? hurts the so-called collective conscience of this nation (and media), while human rights violations and, the massacres and rapes of hundreds of Kashmiris, people from NE region, Dalits, Tribals and minorities does not! Well, if this is what c


Rohan Sam , Opinionated , critical thinker . Feb, 11 2016


There is always violence and uproar because of some unethical elements present in the crowd OR the police force behavior is such that it gets the people disturbed and angry . We , the people have suffered unexpected behavior and the government has not been able to do anything so any negative feel against the govt will take it to another level , as in this case of Afzal Guru mercilessly execution without even informing their family . We the people know whats crime is and that its not big or small , its equal But if the govt wont understand why" such things happen , no one will be able to resolve the issue . Perception matters alot.
There is always violence and uproar because of some unethical elements present in the crowd OR the police force behavior is such that it gets the people disturbed and angry . We , the people have suffered unexpected behavior and the government has not been able to do anything so any negative feel ag


The Maker , Feb, 11 2016


There are many perceptions for those against the peaceful march. I would like to open few eyes here: 1. We are all bloodthirsty or revenge-seeking: Anybody who supported Afzal Guru’s hanging was accused of being hand-in-glove with a militant, bloodthirsty state. This is not true, you know. We did not demand that Afzal be hung, we did not celebrate on the streets and distribute sweets.Some of us believe that it wouldn’t hurt once in a while to send across a message. 2. We blindly trust the judiciary for everything: You can certainly not blame the Indian judiciary for being in a hurry to dispose of cases. With a mountain of evidence of proof piled against him, Kasab was given a good four years to prove his innocence. Afzal Guru was NOT tried without a lawyer. Five of the appointed lawyers rejected fighting his case, and the sixth was deemed unfit by Guru himself. Afzal Guru went over to PoK to train as a terrorist for months. Upon his return, the saga of torture began. 3. We are brainwashed simpletons: But then, who is not? How many of your opinions have been created by your own perception? How many of them were not influenced by your surroundings, your choice of newspaper, your friends’ circle, and the books you read? Not many people have the gift of original thought. Like Arundhati Roy. The Holy Mother of India’s intellectual class. What you carry is an opinion, a view. You are as blinded as me, and as clouded by your bias as I am.
There are many perceptions for those against the peaceful march. I would like to open few eyes here: 1. We are all bloodthirsty or revenge-seeking: Anybody who supported Afzal Guru’s hanging was accused of being hand-in-glove with a militant, bloodthirsty state. This is not true, you know. We did


Gaurav Jha Jha , PHD Scholar at JNU Feb, 11 2016


Permission was on the false name of cuture. I witness these slogans being raised which is clear act of sedition: " Tum kitne Afzal ko maroge, har ghar se afzal niklega" "Kashmir me jihad kar ke rhenge, bharat ko barbad kar ke rhenge" How Peaceul! "Bharat ke honge tukde 10, Inshah Allah Inshah Allah" "India Go Back" It used to be "Indian military go back" "Afzal hum sharminda hain, tere katil zinda hain" "Afzal tera sapna adhoora hai, tere karwan ko hum krenge poora" We have registered a police complaint against these people and asked administration to take strict action as people from outside were also involved, I believe potentially from Jamia Millia and IIMC.
Permission was on the false name of cuture. I witness these slogans being raised which is clear act of sedition: " Tum kitne Afzal ko maroge, har ghar se afzal niklega" "Kashmir me jihad kar ke rhenge, bharat ko barbad kar ke rhenge" How Peaceul! "Bharat ke honge tukde 10, Inshah Allah Inshah Allah"


Raghvendra Saini , International Studies at JNU Feb, 11 2016


Lets go the history : 2010: Dantewada attacks. JNU celebrates. 2012: Beef-Pork festival, dividing campus based on religion. 2013: Afzal Guru hanging celebrated as Shahadat Diwas. 2014: Hem Mishra student of JNU is caught as a courier of maosits, keeping links between urban and rural maoists. Since 2011-2014 have been celebrating Mahishasur Diwas which is based on philosophy which depict Hindu goddess Durga as a prostitute, started from a mess and now clebrated in 78 districts supported by many Christian missionaries. The place is going completely anti-nationalist and we will not let this happen
Lets go the history : 2010: Dantewada attacks. JNU celebrates. 2012: Beef-Pork festival, dividing campus based on religion. 2013: Afzal Guru hanging celebrated as Shahadat Diwas. 2014: Hem Mishra student of JNU is caught as a courier of maosits, keeping links between urban and rural maoists. Since 2


Avinash Sharma Gw , Pro people and justice. Student @JNU Feb, 11 2016


George Orwell once said that to curb any uprising make it sound anti national. That is what the current govt. is doing, it is even trying to place their own heads in universities to propagate their own agenda, even in JNU Mrs. Irani pushed hard to place Mr. Chauhan. Same is the trend in universities like FTII, University of Hyd, Maulana Azad university and D.U If the trend continues people will react to it and this is no different from fascism.
George Orwell once said that to curb any uprising make it sound anti national. That is what the current govt. is doing, it is even trying to place their own heads in universities to propagate their own agenda, even in JNU Mrs. Irani pushed hard to place Mr. Chauhan. Same is the trend in universities


UnSubtleDesi , Feb, 11 2016


Ask them what propagate their own agenda means. Ask them what the govts agenda is. Wld love to knw if they come up with FACTS


V.ArunKumar Roy , Student of International Studies, JNU Feb, 11 2016


Lets go into the details, yesterdays event was called "A Country without a Post Office" writtten by a Kashmiri poet against the ill-treatment that place has been facing. We were doing a peaceful cultural evening when ABVP in is true colours created a chaos. We wanted to showcase the oppression Kashmir is facing, for us Azadi as a term comes so naturally but those people in North East or Kashmir are deprived of it, what kind of a democracy is this, which we need to and which we will talk about. You cannot hold a person guilty based on ideological differences which is what happened in Afzal Guru's case, as the case had no significant strong evidences. State just wanted to hastened the response and hence Afzal was hung. Coming back to Kashmir, Kashmir has a right to self determination, we should go for a plebiscite, Nehru stood at Lal Chowk saying we will go for a Plebiscite, why havent we gone ahead yet. Terrorism is in Kashmir is just because of the millitant occupation, the place has been kept so oppressed that it is bound to revolt. We have a right to freedom and we were questioning and discussing these issues, ABVP tried to curb our freedom and created a chaos. Attitude of university is unexpected!
Lets go into the details, yesterdays event was called "A Country without a Post Office" writtten by a Kashmiri poet against the ill-treatment that place has been facing. We were doing a peaceful cultural evening when ABVP in is true colours created a chaos. We wanted to showcase the oppression Kashm


हम भारत के लोग , Feb, 12 2016


While this is not true, but even if it was, should we not ask why Left-Marxists ideologies been seeded openly for so long?


Abhishek , Msc Eco, BITS Pilani. Football feak Feb, 11 2016


In this country saying wrong a wrong has become a crime. Afzal Guru hanging was based on nothing but public consensus, if we will not stand against it who will? Even this public consensus at times is manufactured and fabric. For example all media houses already took a stand before debate started. Govt through administration and ABVP just need anti JNU agenda by calling us anti nationalists as we have pushed them for Rohit Vemula's case. Public consensus was used then to hang Afzal and is now used to declare as anti-nationalist.
In this country saying wrong a wrong has become a crime. Afzal Guru hanging was based on nothing but public consensus, if we will not stand against it who will? Even this public consensus at times is manufactured and fabric. For example all media houses already took a stand before debate started. G


UnSubtleDesi , Feb, 11 2016


RSS had unfurled the national flag last on Jan 26, 1950. Had stopped since then since only govt buildings were allowed to do so


Munni Bharti Bharti , PHD Scholar at JNU Feb, 11 2016


Baba Saheb made a law against capital punishment, In the event we were discussing against capital punishment and when this capital punishment is used against a particular community it becomes dangerous. Yakub Menon and Afzal Guru were chosen targets. People from different sections have done bigger crimes and have escaped. If RSS calls itself a nationalists, why do these people have a bhagwa flag over their offices and not Indian flag, and they and their wing ABVP calls us anti nationalist.
Baba Saheb made a law against capital punishment, In the event we were discussing against capital punishment and when this capital punishment is used against a particular community it becomes dangerous. Yakub Menon and Afzal Guru were chosen targets. People from different sections have done bigger c


UnSubtleDesi , Feb, 11 2016


It is sad how propaganda can stop these students from basic fact finding. The indoctrination is so pronounced.


हम भारत के लोग , Feb, 12 2016


The national flag could only be unfurled on Govt building until recently when SC changed it. RSS celebrating it since then.HC on Jindal's petition allowed private citizens to unfurl tricolor. SC reconfirmed it in 2004 (http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20040124/main7.htm). and RSS has been unfurling tricolor in its HQ and various other places since then (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/pune/Tri-colour-hoisted-at-RSS-HQ-after-52-yrs/articleshow/1561733136.cms). And yes, in 1947 RSS did oppose Congress flag being adopted as the nation flag of India and rightly
The national flag could only be unfurled on Govt building until recently when SC changed it. RSS celebrating it since then.HC on Jindal's petition allowed private citizens to unfurl tricolor. SC reconfirmed it in 2004 (http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20040124/main7.htm). and RSS has been unfurling


Neil Shroff , Work Hard // Play Hard Feb, 11 2016


In a country like India, where Kashmir is such a dividing topic, such a 'cultural night' dedicated to Afzal Guru was almost as if they were asking for trouble. Even though freedom of speech exists, there is a fine line differentiating free speech and hate speech. The legal position of 'the line' might not be very clear, and at most times, the conduct of such student groups should be self regulated in terms of steering clear of it. The organizers of the event did not commit and illegal act, but one that would gravely hurt the sentiments of others. What they could have taken care of is that the statement they are making through their event is justified and has some sort of rational backing. Like how in the case of another convict, Yakum Memon, proper legal procedure was found to be ignored and hasty decisions were seen to be taken. In a case like that when so many student unions and universities put up their flag and made a statement it was justified. Albeit in this case they just ended up undermining their own credibility and its perceived level of sanity, because if a man who's death penalty order was passed by the highest and the most prestigious judicial bodies of the governments has to be protested against, then what won't they protest against? Where does the buck stop?
In a country like India, where Kashmir is such a dividing topic, such a 'cultural night' dedicated to Afzal Guru was almost as if they were asking for trouble. Even though freedom of speech exists, there is a fine line differentiating free speech and hate speech. The legal position of 'the line' mig


Mohaddasa Syed , Feb, 11 2016


India is a democratic country and freedom of speech is essential for the country's survival.In such a situation, if people want to protest (peacefully) the constitution gives them the right to do so. Also, the hanging of Afzal Guru had upset a lot of people as many considered him to be innocent.Moreover, what is the use of the 'right to freedom of expression' if one cannot raise issues that matter?
India is a democratic country and freedom of speech is essential for the country's survival.In such a situation, if people want to protest (peacefully) the constitution gives them the right to do so. Also, the hanging of Afzal Guru had upset a lot of people as many considered him to be innocent.Mor


Rohit pande , Have a view on many things but happy to thras Feb, 11 2016


People on extreme sides of any argument feed each other they justify each others hatred and extremity and stretch debates away from the lives of the silent majority such debates eat up vital national space and turn attention away from governance


Akshita Sharma , Feb, 11 2016


Some people were motivated by their general aversion to the death penalty on moral or practical grounds. I have sympathy for this view. I did pay attention to those arguing that he did not receive a fair trial. 1. Confession statement: at the trial stage, this was the main basis for the verdict and the death sentence. However, the Supreme Court dismissed the confession statement, on the basis that it violated the safeguards provided in law. The facts are that the case was registered under regular criminal law, under which a confession is admissible only if it is taken in front of a magistrate - a confession given to a police officer is not admissible. However, the Government enacted POTO (later enacted by Parliament as POTA) on 19th December, i.e. after the Dec 13th attack and it was applied to this case on a retroactive basis. POTO/POTA allows confessions before police officers to be admissible, but with some safeguards. One of those is that of right to counsel, which was denied to Afzal. Second is the right for adequate time for reflection before signing the statement This was also, in the Supreme Court's opinion, not provided. Thus the Supreme Court set aside the confession in its entirety. 2. He did not receive adequate legal representation. He was unrepresented for part of the duration of trial, but the Supreme Court did not find this to be a problem since it was for a short time, and during this time, there were no consequential legal decisions. Afzal expressed several times in court that he was not happy with the legal representation but the court did not appoint a different counsel. 3. Circumstantial evidence:The court did point to some curious facts such as Afzal's mobile phone (a crucial piece of evidence as it turned out) but which had neither a SIM card in it, nor was its IMEI number recorded at the time of recovery. Or that the various identifications were based not on identification parades, or by presenting multiple photos of different people from which the witness picked out Afzal, but by asking whether this was the person they had sold the items to, showing only one photo. However, the court concluded that the circumstantial evidence pointed to Afzal's participation in the conspiracy.
Some people were motivated by their general aversion to the death penalty on moral or practical grounds. I have sympathy for this view. I did pay attention to those arguing that he did not receive a fair trial. 1. Confession statement: at the trial stage, this was the main basis for the verdict


Shaurya Singh Khan , Feb, 11 2016


It is quite possible that we will never really KNOW the truth. In any case there is hardly ever anything like the absolute truth and who we are is always going to influence the way we interpret facts. I am afraid that since ordinary citizens have little access to evidence that was presented in court, it is rather difficult to make any facts-based comment on the nature of the evidence and whether it merited a death sentence. We have access to the Supreme court judgement but that is the court's interpretation of the evidence that was present before it, not the evidence itself. Also laypeople are perhaps not the best to analyse evidence from the legal Point Of View; that is why we have lawyers and judges who have the training and experience for it. In any such case passions are going to be high, on both sides and when that happens, facts get overlooked or cherry-picked. The nature of the sentencing and more importantly the timing of the execution is no doubt fuelling speculation and conspiracy theories. Whatever the issue, Government has made a symbolic & political gesture that is probably an attempt to show that it is "tough on terrorism".Sadly, there have been no fundamental changes in the way in which security is managed in India; plenty of Security theatre and no real substance.
It is quite possible that we will never really KNOW the truth. In any case there is hardly ever anything like the absolute truth and who we are is always going to influence the way we interpret facts. I am afraid that since ordinary citizens have little access to evidence that was presented in court


Zainaab Khan , Feb, 10 2016


The march was a peaceful one and was organised to protest against capital punishment. There are a number of arguments against Afzal Gurus hanging. 1. Death penalty, even in the rarest of rare cases, is inhuman: I am not in favour of the State having the legal right to execute. For the serious crimes, we should be putting away the criminals in jail and throwing the key away. Oh and make the person work and pay for the costs of incarceration. 2. Executing the person who is on the front-line, does not allow you to reach those who gave the order.This is what happened when Lee Harvey Oswald was killed and the assassination of JFK remained a mystery forever. I have not read anything about the investigation unravelling the puppeteers. Well there have been many references to terrorist outfits but not so sure if we ever got evidence that would stand in a court of law. 3. By hanging him the State has created a martyr. Let us accept that the unrest in the valley is all about politics and jostling for power on all sides. The execution and the foolish behaviour of not informing the family, the body not being released for burying (government does not wants a grave which can be a rallying point) all add to the aura around Afzal Guru. Those who want to do it will probably rally people around an empty grave and make political capital of that as well.
The march was a peaceful one and was organised to protest against capital punishment. There are a number of arguments against Afzal Gurus hanging. 1. Death penalty, even in the rarest of rare cases, is inhuman: I am not in favour of the State having the legal right to execute. For the serious crime


Rohit pande , Have a view on many things but happy to thras Feb, 11 2016


Public debatanyhave to move beyond National vs anti national We love you vs hate you issues are complex and need nuanced debates for our politics to evolve to anything more than a tamasha


Gauhar Parveen , Feb, 10 2016


This news remind me of the hypocrisy by the government . Though , afzal guru was convicted as a terrorist and of course was unethical of the nation by attacking the Indian Parliament BUT does that mean that the government forgoes what equality is ? Why he got hanged after sentencing but the convict of Gujrat riot and the juvenile of Nirbhaya Case was freed . ? Crime is Crime and be it a big or small one , people should be given equal treatment . Not only this is unfair , it is unfair to that extent where he was killed secretly and his family was also not informed about it nor they were allowed to see the dead body.I am though famished by the fact that the officials are making such a comment as "Anti- national ", though they do not realize that a nation wont act to any person , be it an indian or a kashmiri .
This news remind me of the hypocrisy by the government . Though , afzal guru was convicted as a terrorist and of course was unethical of the nation by attacking the Indian Parliament BUT does that mean that the government forgoes what equality is ? Why he got hanged after sentencing but the convict


Kanahiya , Feb, 10 2016


We are just protesting capital punishment, Afzal is a way to protest for the same. All the violence were caused by ABVP. Rohit vermulla questioned the hanging of yakub menon and we are questioning the hanging of afzal guru. Do we not have the freedom of speech? Neither me nor the organisation raised any anti-India or pro pakistan slogans.
We are just protesting capital punishment, Afzal is a way to protest for the same. All the violence were caused by ABVP. Rohit vermulla questioned the hanging of yakub menon and we are questioning the hanging of afzal guru. Do we not have the freedom of speech? Neither me nor the organisation raise


Kumar Ritwik। कुमार ऋत्विक , Feb, 10 2016


I would have based my opinions on death penalty had you not involved and taken out a march in support of a terrorist Afzal Guru. Shameful!


Umair Khalid , Feb, 10 2016


Constitution gives us the right to freedom of expression! We have a right to be a part of politics and discuss the wrong doings of it.Just because law and the president gave death penalty to Afzal Guru doesn’t means we won’t question that. The Supreme court while giving verdict to Afzal Guru said “We do not have any direct evidence to prove that there was a conspiracy and afzal guru was involved but we are still hanging him to stratify the collective conscious of the society.” How does this justify anything?
Constitution gives us the right to freedom of expression! We have a right to be a part of politics and discuss the wrong doings of it.Just because law and the president gave death penalty to Afzal Guru doesn’t means we won’t question that. The Supreme court while giving verdict to Afzal Guru sa


Aleena Scaria , Feb, 22 2016


Freedom of speech is everyone's right. But propagating anti-national slogans is a bit too over the board. Afzal guru was surely one of the people who conspired against the nation. Sometimes it's difficult to gather evidences in every case. Remember, arushi talvar case, was there any evidence at all, no? Questioning the centre on a national issue and declaring a terrorist a shavers is completely foolish and least expected from the educated youth.
Freedom of speech is everyone's right. But propagating anti-national slogans is a bit too over the board. Afzal guru was surely one of the people who conspired against the nation. Sometimes it's difficult to gather evidences in every case. Remember, arushi talvar case, was there any evidence at all,


Kumar Ritwik। कुमार ऋत्विक , Feb, 10 2016


I want to make quick rebuttals to my 'freedom of expression' friends who have decided to hold such a march against the hanging of an individual. If one is questioning and raising a voice against the decision of a government, it makes sense since the right grants you such a limited exercise of your opinion. But when you are organising an event for a person who was hanged, after due legal processes took place; with the judgments of the High Court , Hon'ble Supreme Court, its subsequent appeal petition decision by the same Court and the Office of the President; then it is a simple case of working against and questioning the integrity and standing of such institutions of a democracy. A vibrant judiciary is needed and we very much have that in our country; such protests are bound to be classified as anti-national if they indulge in such forceful worshipping of a terrorist. It is also surprising to see the absence of the all the liberals who go on to tear the screen of media channels whenever some politician from the ruling side makes a communal statement. Hypocrisy should have no place in our country; and we do need intolerance to that in our country. Therefore, groups like DSU, AISA and SFISFI should be taught a lesson.
I want to make quick rebuttals to my 'freedom of expression' friends who have decided to hold such a march against the hanging of an individual. If one is questioning and raising a voice against the decision of a government, it makes sense since the right grants you such a limited exercise of your o


Zainaab Khan , Feb, 10 2016


Speaking out is right, but the reason you are speaking for is critical. You cannot just scream Anti-National slogans. A stringent action needs to b taken to curtail the situation.


Frank Smith , Feb, 10 2016


What do you have to say about the venom that so called Hindutva groups spew? What do you have to say about Sakshi Maharaj, Pragya, Sadhvi, Col. Purohit, Togadya etc? Are they not trying divide and rule policies? Are they not using ABVP as mere tools to instigate violence and further their own hate-mongering agenda? I say they are worse than congress because they propagate hatred and lies between communities. These groups shed innocent blood just for the sake of coming to power. But Almighty will bring them to justice on Judgement Day. I am against the acts of terror no matter who carries them out. You can put the blame on one community only if you are oblivious or support the acts of terrorism by other community. What do you have to say about Malegaon, Ajmer, Jama Masjid blasts? Were they not carried out by Hindus? Can you not label them as terrorists or anti-nationals? Why cant you condemn innocent killings in Meerut, Godhra, Meerut, Kandhamal, J&K and elsewhere?
What do you have to say about the venom that so called Hindutva groups spew? What do you have to say about Sakshi Maharaj, Pragya, Sadhvi, Col. Purohit, Togadya etc? Are they not trying divide and rule policies? Are they not using ABVP as mere tools to instigate violence and further their own hate-m


Gauhar Parveen , Feb, 10 2016


I am thankful for your comment . " Hindus and other communities also enrage attacks , why they not termed as terrorists " People really should not term just one community as a terrorist group just because of one lame reason of ISIS and Let.


Aakriti Sharma , Feb, 10 2016


Advise to ABVP students : Guys what are you doing? Do you not realize that you guys objecting to such events is hazardous to your own well being? One of the morons who was holding the event,, will commit suicide, and if he happens to be a Dalit , then Mr.Gandhy and Mr.Kejriwal will shed some tears, there will be more protests,, the government will be held on ransom, finally you will be termed as a cause of suicide and a case will be levied on you.
Advise to ABVP students : Guys what are you doing? Do you not realize that you guys objecting to such events is hazardous to your own well being? One of the morons who was holding the event,, will commit suicide, and if he happens to be a Dalit , then Mr.Gandhy and Mr.Kejriwal will shed some tears,


Vassal Shergil , Feb, 10 2016


This is what these ANTI- NATIONAL are doing with hard-earned money of tax payers. Chanting Pakistan- Zindabad and Afjal Guru Amar rhe cannot be justified on pretext of FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. How long we are going to tolerate all this shits , but when we say anything about this it is termed as INTOLERANCE. Now I want to know where is so called flag-bearer of INTOLERANCE-INDIA? Why dont they visit the Campus where the spirit of our Constitution is murdered brutally in the name of FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. This is very dangerous for our country for the coming future. This need to be stopped anyhow
This is what these ANTI- NATIONAL are doing with hard-earned money of tax payers. Chanting Pakistan- Zindabad and Afjal Guru Amar rhe cannot be justified on pretext of FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. How long we are going to tolerate all this shits , but when we say anything about this it is termed as INTOLE