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Rohit pande , Have a view on many things but happy to thras Nov, 28 2016

Are great leaders great polarizers or is it that great polarizers have the best shot at leadership ?


Whatever happened to inclusiveness and the ability to take the entire society along.


Trump and Modi are 2 great examples who have vertically divided the society ( 50-50 as per American poll results and 92-8 as per Namo app in india ).


but even in UK, where the leadership was not defined on either sides, Brexit was able to drive a wedge through the entire society with neighbors getting to hate and doubt neighbors.


It looks as if the extra energy needed to go past the victory mark in electoral politics, can only come from this emotion of worship and hatred. does it some way also point to the inability to meet electoral promises if analyzed with neutral googles and without the benefit of this emotional surge.


Is polarization the new normal in politics ?


Does it mean that the reasoned middle ground which looks at each issue on its own merit, is dead.

Whatever happened to inclusiveness and the ability to take the entire society along.Trump and Modi are 2 great examples who have vertically divided the society ( 50-50 as per American poll results and 92-8 as per Namo app in india ).but even in UK, where the leadership was not defined on either sides, Brexit was able to drive a wedge through the entire society with neighbors getting to hate and doubt neighbors.It looks as if the extra energy needed to go past the victory mark in electoral politics, can only come from this emotion of worship and hatred. does it some way also point to the inability to meet electoral promises if analyzed with neutral googles and without the benefit of this emotional surge.Is polarization the new normal in politics ?Does it mean that the reasoned middle ground which looks at each issue on its own merit, is dead.

Vivek Rao , I am. Nov, 28 2016


I don't know about works politics but for Indian politics radical change in positive direction is the new normal.

There is no polarisation at all.



Abhishek Sharma , Engineer @ IBM Nov, 28 2016


Great leaders take strong steps, talk with their heart, focus on just the well being of their people. This creates polarisation automatically.

How is modi polarising? Give me 3 reasons with facts.



Rohit pande , Have a view on many things but happy to thras Nov, 28 2016


Which of the following is your strongest argument -


1. The leaders don't create polarization but some anti-nationals/ black-hearts automatically get arraigned against strong leaders who walk decisively forward ?

2. With just 8 % in Namo app against his decision, there is hardly any polarization at least in India, just a minuscule minority of dissenters

3. The US election and Brexit vote did not create any polarization in their societies

4. If a great leader has both the vision and foresight to take great decisions one after other, it is only natural for followers to follow him in toto ( without merit to the specific ) and for rebels to criticize also in toto.

Which of the following is your strongest argument -1. The leaders don't create polarization but some anti-nationals/ black-hearts automatically get arraigned against strong leaders who walk decisively forward ?2. With just 8 % in Namo app against his decision, there is hardly any polarization at lea


Abhishek Sharma , Engineer @ IBM Nov, 28 2016


Closest is your 4th point.

But where do you think modi polarised the society. Again, give me 3 points



Rohit pande , Have a view on many things but happy to thras Nov, 28 2016


As long as you don't believe in the Namo app data, you can see the pain, anguish, anger, uncertainty, hope, joy, sense of justice on the streets. There is polarization away from the prying eyes of media. Depending of course on the dependence on the cash economy and in some cases also on the belief about the role of state in the lives of people. You seem to agree on the polarization, except that you blame those arraigned against the decisive leader for their polarization and their opposing views.


The point with polarization is one can't pin it with reason. One can just feel it in the air. A analytical way is to create a opinion map on issues of national importance and notice the strong extreme clusters on both extremes to notice the polarization. Welcome someone on awaremonk to build these clusters.


This post wasn't on Modi though, but on the turn that global politics is taking. Polarization in the air.

As long as you don't believe in the Namo app data, you can see the pain, anguish, anger, uncertainty, hope, joy, sense of justice on the streets. There is polarization away from the prying eyes of media. Depending of course on the dependence on the cash economy and in some cases also on the belief a


Vivek Rao , I am. Nov, 28 2016


If there was polarisation you would have seen chaos, vehicles burning,band being supported but none of this is happening.

I have spoken to almost 100 random people about this step and believe me no one not one was on the other side. Inconvenience was quoted but everyone said it's okay.



Rohit pande , Have a view on many things but happy to thras Nov, 28 2016


Maybe I mixed up responses then. This was in response to someone who didn't believe in the Namo app data. You also don't seem to believe in it, as your data is 100 %. Then obviously there is no polarization in India. Let other democracies handle their own rot. Your argument wins hands down on the back of your survey.
Maybe I mixed up responses then. This was in response to someone who didn't believe in the Namo app data. You also don't seem to believe in it, as your data is 100 %. Then obviously there is no polarization in India. Let other democracies handle their own rot. Your argument wins hands down on the ba


Vivek Rao , I am. Nov, 29 2016


My data is not 100% also I do not have binary opinion about people that they are either bhakts or liberals.

But how do you reach to a conclusion of polarisation based on a poll results.

Are you sure that you are using the right word to express yourself



Rohit pande , Have a view on many things but happy to thras Nov, 29 2016


Polarization is formation of extreme clusters on either side who see no reason, no logic and have no issue based divergences. The point of this particular thread remains, that increasingly one is seeing them form in world politics and democracy is also getting hostage to that. There are substantial arguments on how they would weaken democracy. But then there are others who would say that such clusters shall solidify public opinion around great leaders and make them lead the way to a bright future for all. Good times.
Polarization is formation of extreme clusters on either side who see no reason, no logic and have no issue based divergences. The point of this particular thread remains, that increasingly one is seeing them form in world politics and democracy is also getting hostage to that. There are substantial


Aditya Singh , Starting up. Just learnt before launch its ca Nov, 28 2016


Great thoughts put up Rohit.

It's like history repeating itself. Lenin Hitler Mussolini were great polarisers too. World moved over them and now gain we want them in the picture.